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	<title>Comments on: James Morgan Valentine, Newt Knight&#8217;s 1st. Lt. in the Free State of Jones</title>
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		<title>By: Tom Valentine</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Valentine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2013 01:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ann, David Valentine is my first cousin.  His father and mine were brothers.  My name is Thomas Thornell Valentine and I live in Hernando MS.  Would love to talk with you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ann, David Valentine is my first cousin.  His father and mine were brothers.  My name is Thomas Thornell Valentine and I live in Hernando MS.  Would love to talk with you.</p>
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		<title>By: Ann Valentine</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ann Valentine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2011 20:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello,

This is the first time that I have posted anything in a year, and still not able to frequent the site very often.

The Mississippi Valentines migrated from Barnwell, Orangeburg, SC., (children of william and mary elizabeth moore) Allen b: 1808,(sintha eboline welch) Benjamin b: 1810,(margaret sellers) Levi b: 1812,(martha tyler) Darrell b: 1814,sara susannah welch) Mary Marzilla b: 1818,(james richard welch) William Patrick b: 1821,(julia ann baldwin).

For those of you who have access to ancestry.com, I along with several cousins have a tree (SOUTHERN BRED FAMILIES) that may be of some help. Also, there is a DNA project headed up by David Valentine descended from Levi: at this time it is 98% with certainty that the above family is related to the SC, Levi L. Valentine that migrated to GA. David is trying to locate a male descendant from John, James, or Thomas out of SC.

The &#039;SOUTHERN BRED FAMILIES&#039; tree contains information on many of the &#039;Piney Woods&#039; of Jones/Jasper Co. and surrounding counties, et., welch, knight, gunter, holifield, ainsworth, kervin, bynum, jefcoat, coats.

Till next time,
Ann]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,</p>
<p>This is the first time that I have posted anything in a year, and still not able to frequent the site very often.</p>
<p>The Mississippi Valentines migrated from Barnwell, Orangeburg, SC., (children of william and mary elizabeth moore) Allen b: 1808,(sintha eboline welch) Benjamin b: 1810,(margaret sellers) Levi b: 1812,(martha tyler) Darrell b: 1814,sara susannah welch) Mary Marzilla b: 1818,(james richard welch) William Patrick b: 1821,(julia ann baldwin).</p>
<p>For those of you who have access to ancestry.com, I along with several cousins have a tree (SOUTHERN BRED FAMILIES) that may be of some help. Also, there is a DNA project headed up by David Valentine descended from Levi: at this time it is 98% with certainty that the above family is related to the SC, Levi L. Valentine that migrated to GA. David is trying to locate a male descendant from John, James, or Thomas out of SC.</p>
<p>The &#8216;SOUTHERN BRED FAMILIES&#8217; tree contains information on many of the &#8216;Piney Woods&#8217; of Jones/Jasper Co. and surrounding counties, et., welch, knight, gunter, holifield, ainsworth, kervin, bynum, jefcoat, coats.</p>
<p>Till next time,<br />
Ann</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Payne</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ed Payne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2011 14:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lee:

Tom Knight&#039;s book &quot;Life and Activities of Captain Newton Knight&quot; has recently been reprinted in a facsimile paperback edition by Carolyn and Keith Horne of Laurel, who own the rights.  If you live in the area, you can purchase a copy from them.

The account of James Morgan Valentine&#039;s wounding appears on pg 67-68.  I&#039;ve transcribed it below.  Please note Tom&#039;s writing style was all his own.  By the way, the Aunt Sallie Parker (nee Sarah Collins) who aided him was my 3xgr grandmother:

&quot;Mr. George Valentine told me just a few days ago that Morge Valentine and his brother and another man a good friend to my father, that Morge and Josh Hinton and Jim Gunter, went where an old man Gunter lived and caught out three of the old man&#039;s horses and rode them off and they hadn&#039;t gone very long before they rode into a company of cavalry, and the cavalry began shooting at them and Hinton and Gunter jumped off of their horses and ran through the thick bushes and got away, but they hit Morge Valentine in one of his shoulders and they caught him and carried him over on Tallahala swamp, and it was getting late in the evening, nearly dark, and decided to hang him.  They put a rope around his neck fixing to hang him.  While they were fixing to hang him, it was close to the edge of the creek, he got a chance and slipped down into the water and swam across to the other side of the creek.  They shot at him several times as he was getting into the swamp but their shots failed to stop him.  He kept going down this creek and as soon as they could get across, and as soon as they could get their dogs across they struck his track.  He had swum back on the other side.  He swam the creek five times.  They supposed he was drowned in the creek with the rope on his neck and one shoulder broke.  He wasn&#039;t drowned.  He got out of the swamp though it was dark and went to Aunt Sallie Parker&#039;s.  That night she let him have her horse to ride over to where my father was at Salbatty camp.  She sent a negro boy with him to bring the horse back.  As soon as he got there my father began to doctor him and kept him there in the camp and when he got able to go he carried him to his house until he got well.  Feeling a little uneasy that the cavalry might find him, he dug a big pit in the back yard and covered it and kept him in there until he was able to go home.  My father did the doctoring to him until he got well.  They say he never left my father any more.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lee:</p>
<p>Tom Knight&#8217;s book &#8220;Life and Activities of Captain Newton Knight&#8221; has recently been reprinted in a facsimile paperback edition by Carolyn and Keith Horne of Laurel, who own the rights.  If you live in the area, you can purchase a copy from them.</p>
<p>The account of James Morgan Valentine&#8217;s wounding appears on pg 67-68.  I&#8217;ve transcribed it below.  Please note Tom&#8217;s writing style was all his own.  By the way, the Aunt Sallie Parker (nee Sarah Collins) who aided him was my 3xgr grandmother:</p>
<p>&#8220;Mr. George Valentine told me just a few days ago that Morge Valentine and his brother and another man a good friend to my father, that Morge and Josh Hinton and Jim Gunter, went where an old man Gunter lived and caught out three of the old man&#8217;s horses and rode them off and they hadn&#8217;t gone very long before they rode into a company of cavalry, and the cavalry began shooting at them and Hinton and Gunter jumped off of their horses and ran through the thick bushes and got away, but they hit Morge Valentine in one of his shoulders and they caught him and carried him over on Tallahala swamp, and it was getting late in the evening, nearly dark, and decided to hang him.  They put a rope around his neck fixing to hang him.  While they were fixing to hang him, it was close to the edge of the creek, he got a chance and slipped down into the water and swam across to the other side of the creek.  They shot at him several times as he was getting into the swamp but their shots failed to stop him.  He kept going down this creek and as soon as they could get across, and as soon as they could get their dogs across they struck his track.  He had swum back on the other side.  He swam the creek five times.  They supposed he was drowned in the creek with the rope on his neck and one shoulder broke.  He wasn&#8217;t drowned.  He got out of the swamp though it was dark and went to Aunt Sallie Parker&#8217;s.  That night she let him have her horse to ride over to where my father was at Salbatty camp.  She sent a negro boy with him to bring the horse back.  As soon as he got there my father began to doctor him and kept him there in the camp and when he got able to go he carried him to his house until he got well.  Feeling a little uneasy that the cavalry might find him, he dug a big pit in the back yard and covered it and kept him in there until he was able to go home.  My father did the doctoring to him until he got well.  They say he never left my father any more.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Lee Gunter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lee Gunter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2011 19:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[please tell where i can read about the accounts of Tom Knight’s account of Morgan’s wound about hinton and Gunter]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>please tell where i can read about the accounts of Tom Knight’s account of Morgan’s wound about hinton and Gunter</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis Valentine</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dennis Valentine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2011 21:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To:  Arlene Kateen

I read your email to Vicki and have read both of her books on Jones County Mississippi.  My grand father Henry W. Valentine, was a son of James Morgan Valentine.  I know that Valentine line was from Orangeburg District of South Carolina.  I would like to know more about this Valentine line from Orangeburg.  Would you please share your information with me?

James Morgan&#039;s parents were Allen Valentine and Cynthia Eveline Welch.

Allen Valentine&#039;s parents were William Valentine and Elizabeth Moore.

Sincerely, Dennis Valentine]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To:  Arlene Kateen</p>
<p>I read your email to Vicki and have read both of her books on Jones County Mississippi.  My grand father Henry W. Valentine, was a son of James Morgan Valentine.  I know that Valentine line was from Orangeburg District of South Carolina.  I would like to know more about this Valentine line from Orangeburg.  Would you please share your information with me?</p>
<p>James Morgan&#8217;s parents were Allen Valentine and Cynthia Eveline Welch.</p>
<p>Allen Valentine&#8217;s parents were William Valentine and Elizabeth Moore.</p>
<p>Sincerely, Dennis Valentine</p>
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		<title>By: Arlene Kateen</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Arlene Kateen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Mar 2011 18:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Have any of  the descendants of Allen and Elizabeth Moore Valentine shared a DNA project with the other Valentine familes of Orangeburg or Barnwell Counties South Carolina.  There was James Valentine Sr., James Valentine Jr., William Valentine, John Valentine, Thomas Valentine living in Orangeburg County South Carolina during the Revolutionary War.  Have other information on these families and would like to share with other Valentine familes. I am interested in a Valentine Family DNA Project. 
 Sincerely Arlene Kateen]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have any of  the descendants of Allen and Elizabeth Moore Valentine shared a DNA project with the other Valentine familes of Orangeburg or Barnwell Counties South Carolina.  There was James Valentine Sr., James Valentine Jr., William Valentine, John Valentine, Thomas Valentine living in Orangeburg County South Carolina during the Revolutionary War.  Have other information on these families and would like to share with other Valentine familes. I am interested in a Valentine Family DNA Project.<br />
 Sincerely Arlene Kateen</p>
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		<title>By: renegadesouth</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[renegadesouth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Aug 2010 17:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Carolyn,

Thanks for your comment. I hope I&#039;ll be hearing that story soon!

Vikki]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carolyn,</p>
<p>Thanks for your comment. I hope I&#8217;ll be hearing that story soon!</p>
<p>Vikki</p>
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		<title>By: carolyn valentine johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[carolyn valentine johnson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Aug 2010 11:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am Allen and cynthias great grand daughter, I live in la. I am a second Family of John and cynthia (sis) valentine from Soso,Miss . I have quit a story for you,. Talk soon carolyn]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am Allen and cynthias great grand daughter, I live in la. I am a second Family of John and cynthia (sis) valentine from Soso,Miss . I have quit a story for you,. Talk soon carolyn</p>
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		<title>By: Ann Valentine</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ann Valentine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 04:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I will check out Amazon, tomorrow.

Wish you the best.

Ann]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will check out Amazon, tomorrow.</p>
<p>Wish you the best.</p>
<p>Ann</p>
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		<title>By: renegadesouth</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[renegadesouth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 03:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for your interest in the new book, Ann. Yes, it&#039;s now available from the UNC press and Amazon, although the official release date is April.

Vikki]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your interest in the new book, Ann. Yes, it&#8217;s now available from the UNC press and Amazon, although the official release date is April.</p>
<p>Vikki</p>
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