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	<title>Comments on: Part Two: Review of Sally Jenkins and John Stauffer, State of Jones</title>
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		<title>By: O. C. Martin, Confederate Veteran, remembers the Civil War and Newt Knight &#171; Renegade South</title>
		<link>http://renegadesouth.wordpress.com/2009/07/07/part-two-review-of-sally-jenkins-and-john-stauffer-state-of-jones/#comment-3420</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[O. C. Martin, Confederate Veteran, remembers the Civil War and Newt Knight &#171; Renegade South]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jun 2011 19:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] that gap in his military record allowed Sally Jenkins and John Stauffer, in their 2009 book, State of Jones, to feature fifteen pages detailing Newt&#8217;s allegedly grueling experiences at—yes, [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] that gap in his military record allowed Sally Jenkins and John Stauffer, in their 2009 book, State of Jones, to feature fifteen pages detailing Newt&#8217;s allegedly grueling experiences at—yes, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: renegadesouth</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 12:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for such a thoughtful post, Sherree. I especially appreciate your concern that &quot;historical scholarship not devolve into a form of entertainment.&quot; In the spring book issue of &lt;em&gt;The Nation&lt;/em&gt;, Elizabeth Sifton addressed the evolution of trade publishing in the 1990s. &quot;The money men,&quot; she writes, &quot;trusted editors less and marketing people more; literary experiment was frowned on, though gambling on popular authors was acceptable--and they all bid to publish the same ones&quot; (&lt;em&gt;The Nation&lt;/em&gt;, June 8, 2009, p. 42).

Thankfully, we still have university presses, but they are increasingly strained financially.  

I too find it inexplicable that neither author ever contacted me while they were writing their book, if only as a simple matter of &quot;professional courtesy&quot; as you say.

Vikki]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for such a thoughtful post, Sherree. I especially appreciate your concern that &#8220;historical scholarship not devolve into a form of entertainment.&#8221; In the spring book issue of <em>The Nation</em>, Elizabeth Sifton addressed the evolution of trade publishing in the 1990s. &#8220;The money men,&#8221; she writes, &#8220;trusted editors less and marketing people more; literary experiment was frowned on, though gambling on popular authors was acceptable&#8211;and they all bid to publish the same ones&#8221; (<em>The Nation</em>, June 8, 2009, p. 42).</p>
<p>Thankfully, we still have university presses, but they are increasingly strained financially.  </p>
<p>I too find it inexplicable that neither author ever contacted me while they were writing their book, if only as a simple matter of &#8220;professional courtesy&#8221; as you say.</p>
<p>Vikki</p>
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		<title>By: Sherree Tannen</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sherree Tannen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 11:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Vikki,

Thank you for this excellent review. You cover a lot of detailed information succinctly, and with great clarity, which once again shows your mastery of your subject matter.  

It seems to me that there is an issue of professional courtesy at stake here, or, perhaps, even a question of ethics concerning what is, or what is not, appropriate conduct. You are, without doubt, the premier expert on the topic of the state of Jones, having devoted many years of scholarly research, analysis, and writing to the topic--published, peer reviewed and well received writing--so it would appear that, at the very least, as a matter of professional courtesy, the writers of The State of Jones should have contacted you prior to the publication of their book to consult with you on different issues concerning the state of Jones, especially since the authors quote your work as a source!  Instead, the book was published, your work was cited without prior knowledge on your part when prior knowledge was necessary, in my opinion, since differences of interpretation are involved, and we now have a public conversation taking place out of necessity. All of this might have been avoided had proper respect been shown in the first place. Hopefully, historical scholarship will not devolve into a form of entertainment, subject only to the rules of conduct (and the lack thereof) characteristic of the entertainment industry, as much of what passes today as journalistic reporting has unfortunately done. Sherree]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vikki,</p>
<p>Thank you for this excellent review. You cover a lot of detailed information succinctly, and with great clarity, which once again shows your mastery of your subject matter.  </p>
<p>It seems to me that there is an issue of professional courtesy at stake here, or, perhaps, even a question of ethics concerning what is, or what is not, appropriate conduct. You are, without doubt, the premier expert on the topic of the state of Jones, having devoted many years of scholarly research, analysis, and writing to the topic&#8211;published, peer reviewed and well received writing&#8211;so it would appear that, at the very least, as a matter of professional courtesy, the writers of The State of Jones should have contacted you prior to the publication of their book to consult with you on different issues concerning the state of Jones, especially since the authors quote your work as a source!  Instead, the book was published, your work was cited without prior knowledge on your part when prior knowledge was necessary, in my opinion, since differences of interpretation are involved, and we now have a public conversation taking place out of necessity. All of this might have been avoided had proper respect been shown in the first place. Hopefully, historical scholarship will not devolve into a form of entertainment, subject only to the rules of conduct (and the lack thereof) characteristic of the entertainment industry, as much of what passes today as journalistic reporting has unfortunately done. Sherree</p>
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		<title>By: renegadesouth</title>
		<link>http://renegadesouth.wordpress.com/2009/07/07/part-two-review-of-sally-jenkins-and-john-stauffer-state-of-jones/#comment-460</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 23:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a teacher, I feel the same way, Greg.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a teacher, I feel the same way, Greg.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Rowe</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Rowe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 15:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I expect better interpretation of research than this out of my middle school students. I&#039;ve not seen anything like this outside of helping my students revise citations for their papers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I expect better interpretation of research than this out of my middle school students. I&#8217;ve not seen anything like this outside of helping my students revise citations for their papers.</p>
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		<title>By: renegadesouth</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 20:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ed,

Yes, I was amazed to see my book, FREE STATE OF JONES, cited as the source for that statement about Stacy Collins. What&#039;s strange is that Tom Knight makes so such statement either.

Vikki]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed,</p>
<p>Yes, I was amazed to see my book, FREE STATE OF JONES, cited as the source for that statement about Stacy Collins. What&#8217;s strange is that Tom Knight makes so such statement either.</p>
<p>Vikki</p>
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		<title>By: payneed</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Vikki:  Glad you made note of the Jenkins &amp; Stauffer claim that Stacy Collins was on record as having spoken out against secession before his death ca 1853.  That was one of the ones in my list of errors that had me referring back to your book, wondering how I could have missed it.
Ed Payne]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vikki:  Glad you made note of the Jenkins &amp; Stauffer claim that Stacy Collins was on record as having spoken out against secession before his death ca 1853.  That was one of the ones in my list of errors that had me referring back to your book, wondering how I could have missed it.<br />
Ed Payne</p>
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