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	<title>Comments on: Ed Payne, &#8220;The Family of James Richard Welch: a Study in Piney Woods Unionism&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: renegadesouth</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Apr 2013 13:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Carolyn,

Thank you so much for providing all this interesting family history on Harrison Taylor Collins! And I&#039;m delighted to learn that you in turn are telling others of the family about the Collins&#039;s fascinating Civil War history.

Vikki]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carolyn,</p>
<p>Thank you so much for providing all this interesting family history on Harrison Taylor Collins! And I&#8217;m delighted to learn that you in turn are telling others of the family about the Collins&#8217;s fascinating Civil War history.</p>
<p>Vikki</p>
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		<title>By: Carolyn Cauthorn</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carolyn Cauthorn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Apr 2013 22:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ed,
  I really enjoyed this article and I thank you so much for all your time and effort .
My husband is a descendant of the Collins family, in particular, Harrison Taylor
Collins.  My mother-in-law has helped me out with their family tree and she told me Harrison Taylor Collins was married 4 more times after Samantha Emmaline Welch died. She had always heard that &quot;Emmaline&quot; as they called her, died during or right after their last son, William, was born.  William&#039;s death certificate states he was born in Texas, in 1875. I had to really &quot;dig&quot; to find out who the other wives were, but I found them:

   Permelia A. Whiteside:  Married  1878    Died  1881
        (she was his next door neighbor)
   Francis &quot;Fannie&quot; Richardson:  Married  1882    Died  1894
   Hulda Bailey Moore:  Married 1895    Died  1918
   Martha Tullos:  Married  1923   (at some point Harrison&#039;s family sent her back 
       to her family because &quot;they couldn&#039;t take care of both of them&quot;)

Harrison had 18 children and he was my husband&#039;s GG Grandfather. His G Grandfather was Eli......Grandmother was Ebbie Sophira Collins and, of course her daughter is my mother-in-law.                                                                  
  I would also like to thank Vikki for telling us the story of the Collins in Mississippi and Texas.........my mother-in-law was really surprised to learn 
about the Unionist ties in Mississippi and Texas.  She had never heard a word about it!!  (She&#039;s 85 yrs. old, grew up in Hardin Co. and lives in Liberty now).  I have educated some of the Collins clan in my generation, but there are quite a few Collins in Liberty, Hardin and Polk Co. that need to hear the story!

Carolyn Cauthorn]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed,<br />
  I really enjoyed this article and I thank you so much for all your time and effort .<br />
My husband is a descendant of the Collins family, in particular, Harrison Taylor<br />
Collins.  My mother-in-law has helped me out with their family tree and she told me Harrison Taylor Collins was married 4 more times after Samantha Emmaline Welch died. She had always heard that &#8220;Emmaline&#8221; as they called her, died during or right after their last son, William, was born.  William&#8217;s death certificate states he was born in Texas, in 1875. I had to really &#8220;dig&#8221; to find out who the other wives were, but I found them:</p>
<p>   Permelia A. Whiteside:  Married  1878    Died  1881<br />
        (she was his next door neighbor)<br />
   Francis &#8220;Fannie&#8221; Richardson:  Married  1882    Died  1894<br />
   Hulda Bailey Moore:  Married 1895    Died  1918<br />
   Martha Tullos:  Married  1923   (at some point Harrison&#8217;s family sent her back<br />
       to her family because &#8220;they couldn&#8217;t take care of both of them&#8221;)</p>
<p>Harrison had 18 children and he was my husband&#8217;s GG Grandfather. His G Grandfather was Eli&#8230;&#8230;Grandmother was Ebbie Sophira Collins and, of course her daughter is my mother-in-law.<br />
  I would also like to thank Vikki for telling us the story of the Collins in Mississippi and Texas&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;my mother-in-law was really surprised to learn<br />
about the Unionist ties in Mississippi and Texas.  She had never heard a word about it!!  (She&#8217;s 85 yrs. old, grew up in Hardin Co. and lives in Liberty now).  I have educated some of the Collins clan in my generation, but there are quite a few Collins in Liberty, Hardin and Polk Co. that need to hear the story!</p>
<p>Carolyn Cauthorn</p>
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		<title>By: renegadesouth</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2012 21:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you, Kathleen, for your kind words! I&#039;m so pleased that Renegade South has helped so many people reconnect with their Free State of Jones roots--it certainly has helped me to do the same.

Currently, I have no presentations scheduled near Baton Rouge. I just spoke on the Free State of Jones in Laurel, Mississippi, last July, 2011. Wish you could have been there!

Vikki]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Kathleen, for your kind words! I&#8217;m so pleased that Renegade South has helped so many people reconnect with their Free State of Jones roots&#8211;it certainly has helped me to do the same.</p>
<p>Currently, I have no presentations scheduled near Baton Rouge. I just spoke on the Free State of Jones in Laurel, Mississippi, last July, 2011. Wish you could have been there!</p>
<p>Vikki</p>
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		<title>By: Kathleen Toomey Lott</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kathleen Toomey Lott]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2012 20:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Vickie,

I enjoy &quot;Renagade South&quot; magazine so much!  I save the copies in a special folder on my computer and go back and read and study the articles at my leasure. 
  My mother was a Watkins from Jones County and I remember her saying how she was teased at school in Ellisville because of her &#039;roots&#039;.  The kids would taunt herby saying &quot;Yea, you&#039;re from the free state of Jones.&quot;  Her reply was  &quot;Yea, and I&#039;m proud of it!&quot;
  I would dearly love to attend your lecture on Jones  County,etc.  Where is the nearest loction to Baton Rouge, La. where your next program will be?
     Thanks for letting others enjoy your hard work
Kathleen]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Vickie,</p>
<p>I enjoy &#8220;Renagade South&#8221; magazine so much!  I save the copies in a special folder on my computer and go back and read and study the articles at my leasure.<br />
  My mother was a Watkins from Jones County and I remember her saying how she was teased at school in Ellisville because of her &#8216;roots&#8217;.  The kids would taunt herby saying &#8220;Yea, you&#8217;re from the free state of Jones.&#8221;  Her reply was  &#8220;Yea, and I&#8217;m proud of it!&#8221;<br />
  I would dearly love to attend your lecture on Jones  County,etc.  Where is the nearest loction to Baton Rouge, La. where your next program will be?<br />
     Thanks for letting others enjoy your hard work<br />
Kathleen</p>
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		<title>By: Randall Kervin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Randall Kervin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2011 05:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another great article Ed.  Not sure the acknowledgment is earned, but I am sure flattered and honored by it.  I sure am looking foreward to the article you are working on for Mary Elizabeth Welch.  I am really starting to understand how inter connected these families and communities were. But what I am really starting to think is interesting is the roles these women played in keeping these families together during what had to be incredibly arduous times.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another great article Ed.  Not sure the acknowledgment is earned, but I am sure flattered and honored by it.  I sure am looking foreward to the article you are working on for Mary Elizabeth Welch.  I am really starting to understand how inter connected these families and communities were. But what I am really starting to think is interesting is the roles these women played in keeping these families together during what had to be incredibly arduous times.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Payne</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ed Payne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Oct 2011 17:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Janice and Vikky:

I appreciate the comments.  Vikki Bynum and I discussed our awareness of Unionist connections in the James Richard Walters family--she having included the Welch line among her &quot;selected descendants&quot; trees in the appendices to &quot;Free State of Jones.&quot;  But reading Prentice Bynum&#039;s list of heirs, including the daughters and their husbands, added another dimension.  As noted, Randall Kervin&#039;s inquiry about Mary Elizabeth Welch Eulin prompted this search.  And wherever you dig in Civil War era Jones County, it seems you invariably come up with something interesting.

There are, of course, other threads:  William Welch&#039;s wife Amanda was a sister of Merida Morgan Coats and Adam Coats.  M.M. Coats was listed on the Knight Band roster and both Merida and Adam were among the captives at Kennesaw Mtn. 

Janice: do you have the Joel &amp; Tabitha Walters pension file?  I had a researcher locate the file at the NARA and scan the contents.  It consists of 105 documents and I could burn a set for you.  If you don&#039;t have my email, contact Vikki Bynum and she will provide it.

Ed Payne]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Janice and Vikky:</p>
<p>I appreciate the comments.  Vikki Bynum and I discussed our awareness of Unionist connections in the James Richard Walters family&#8211;she having included the Welch line among her &#8220;selected descendants&#8221; trees in the appendices to &#8220;Free State of Jones.&#8221;  But reading Prentice Bynum&#8217;s list of heirs, including the daughters and their husbands, added another dimension.  As noted, Randall Kervin&#8217;s inquiry about Mary Elizabeth Welch Eulin prompted this search.  And wherever you dig in Civil War era Jones County, it seems you invariably come up with something interesting.</p>
<p>There are, of course, other threads:  William Welch&#8217;s wife Amanda was a sister of Merida Morgan Coats and Adam Coats.  M.M. Coats was listed on the Knight Band roster and both Merida and Adam were among the captives at Kennesaw Mtn. </p>
<p>Janice: do you have the Joel &amp; Tabitha Walters pension file?  I had a researcher locate the file at the NARA and scan the contents.  It consists of 105 documents and I could burn a set for you.  If you don&#8217;t have my email, contact Vikki Bynum and she will provide it.</p>
<p>Ed Payne</p>
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		<title>By: Vikky Anders</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vikky Anders]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Oct 2011 03:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And that&#039;s all for now. 

Love reading all postings on Renegade South.  

Cheers to you and to Vikki,

The other Vikky (Wilburn) Anders...in San Diego]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And that&#8217;s all for now. </p>
<p>Love reading all postings on Renegade South.  </p>
<p>Cheers to you and to Vikki,</p>
<p>The other Vikky (Wilburn) Anders&#8230;in San Diego</p>
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		<title>By: Vikky Anders</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vikky Anders]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Oct 2011 03:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Continued from above....DNA test show three unrelated Wilburn/Welborn emigrant lines...name is spelled various ways regardless of ancestors.  This Welborn line is not related to my ancestors. This line of Welborns are descendants of Edward Wilbourn who died in Baltimore Co MD but whose descendants settlled into Rowan and Stokes Co NC...And also settled into SC and other parts of the deep South... Interesting, because I also show some Welsh families who do appear to be related to my DNA Wilburn ancestors.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Continued from above&#8230;.DNA test show three unrelated Wilburn/Welborn emigrant lines&#8230;name is spelled various ways regardless of ancestors.  This Welborn line is not related to my ancestors. This line of Welborns are descendants of Edward Wilbourn who died in Baltimore Co MD but whose descendants settlled into Rowan and Stokes Co NC&#8230;And also settled into SC and other parts of the deep South&#8230; Interesting, because I also show some Welsh families who do appear to be related to my DNA Wilburn ancestors.</p>
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		<title>By: Vikky Anders</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vikky Anders]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Oct 2011 03:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Ed,

As per usual, your research is terrific!  Okay, I checked my database.  Here&#039;s what I found.  (Note I have NO documents to back up anything in my database.  NADA!)  

I show a William Welborn m Rachel Payne on Nov 7 1807 in Rowan Co NC.  Now I also show that Wm Welborn shares a consanguineous relationship with the other Welborn families in Jones Co MS. And surrounding areas.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ed,</p>
<p>As per usual, your research is terrific!  Okay, I checked my database.  Here&#8217;s what I found.  (Note I have NO documents to back up anything in my database.  NADA!)  </p>
<p>I show a William Welborn m Rachel Payne on Nov 7 1807 in Rowan Co NC.  Now I also show that Wm Welborn shares a consanguineous relationship with the other Welborn families in Jones Co MS. And surrounding areas.</p>
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		<title>By: renegadesouth</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[renegadesouth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Oct 2011 23:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Jan,

It&#039;s good to see you on Renegade South after a long while!

Vikki]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jan,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s good to see you on Renegade South after a long while!</p>
<p>Vikki</p>
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