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	<title>Comments on: A Remarkable Civil War Letter: William D. Fitzgerald, imprisoned Southern Unionist, to President Abraham Lincoln</title>
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		<title>By: renegadesouth</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2011 01:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Marilyn,

Your family&#039;s story has many similar elements as those found in &quot;divided&quot; families throughout the South. So much of what determined a man&#039;s decision was dictated by circumstances that could be quite fluid. It certainly resonates with many of the personal stories Ed Payne has recently uncovered for his Renegade South posts on Unionism in Piney Woods Mississippi.

Thank you again for sharing your family&#039;s story. How wonderful that so much of it was preserved through the generations.

Vikki]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marilyn,</p>
<p>Your family&#8217;s story has many similar elements as those found in &#8220;divided&#8221; families throughout the South. So much of what determined a man&#8217;s decision was dictated by circumstances that could be quite fluid. It certainly resonates with many of the personal stories Ed Payne has recently uncovered for his Renegade South posts on Unionism in Piney Woods Mississippi.</p>
<p>Thank you again for sharing your family&#8217;s story. How wonderful that so much of it was preserved through the generations.</p>
<p>Vikki</p>
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		<title>By: Marilyn</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marilyn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2011 01:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[William D also had personal knowledge of the reasons many non-slaveholding Southerners joined the CSA. While one son did escape to West Virginia and join the Union Army; another son, my GG grandfather Alfred M Fitzgerald,  joined the 23rd Mississippi, CO D out of Tishimongo.Consequently, he was captured at the Battle of Fort Donelson and held as a Prisoner of War at Camp Douglas in Chicago, where many confederates perished because of the brutal conditions.  He did survive, and was exchanged in late 1862, presumedly to rejoin his unit.  Alfred deserted the CSA and was captured again by the Union Army near Tishimongo in Mid-July 1863. Ironically enough, just at the time his father was dying at Castle Thunder!  Alfred signed a loyalty oath to the Union and became a Union scout.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>William D also had personal knowledge of the reasons many non-slaveholding Southerners joined the CSA. While one son did escape to West Virginia and join the Union Army; another son, my GG grandfather Alfred M Fitzgerald,  joined the 23rd Mississippi, CO D out of Tishimongo.Consequently, he was captured at the Battle of Fort Donelson and held as a Prisoner of War at Camp Douglas in Chicago, where many confederates perished because of the brutal conditions.  He did survive, and was exchanged in late 1862, presumedly to rejoin his unit.  Alfred deserted the CSA and was captured again by the Union Army near Tishimongo in Mid-July 1863. Ironically enough, just at the time his father was dying at Castle Thunder!  Alfred signed a loyalty oath to the Union and became a Union scout.</p>
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		<title>By: renegadesouth</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[renegadesouth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2011 20:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Marilyn,

Thank you for this additional information about the brutal treatment of your ggg grandfather. There is no doubt that extreme measures were taken by Confederate authorities and vigilantes to quash Unionism; examples of such, like that of Unionist activity, are scattered throughout documents, letters, and court records.

Vikki]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marilyn,</p>
<p>Thank you for this additional information about the brutal treatment of your ggg grandfather. There is no doubt that extreme measures were taken by Confederate authorities and vigilantes to quash Unionism; examples of such, like that of Unionist activity, are scattered throughout documents, letters, and court records.</p>
<p>Vikki</p>
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		<title>By: Marilyn</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marilyn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2011 16:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would say that the Confederate Government was actively suppressing Southern Unionists by putting them in prison without formal charges (habeus corpus suspension -- like the Union government),and  letting them starve to death as they did with William Fitzgerald! I doubt he was the only one.  The response that John Letcher (governor of VA at the time and a boyhood friend of Fitzgerald) gave for his continued imprisonment was that Fitzgerald was said to have voted for Fremont (first anti-slavery candidate of the Republican Party) in 1856 and that he had helped his son escape conscription. And for that, Letcher literally said he could go to hell.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would say that the Confederate Government was actively suppressing Southern Unionists by putting them in prison without formal charges (habeus corpus suspension &#8212; like the Union government),and  letting them starve to death as they did with William Fitzgerald! I doubt he was the only one.  The response that John Letcher (governor of VA at the time and a boyhood friend of Fitzgerald) gave for his continued imprisonment was that Fitzgerald was said to have voted for Fremont (first anti-slavery candidate of the Republican Party) in 1856 and that he had helped his son escape conscription. And for that, Letcher literally said he could go to hell.</p>
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		<title>By: renegadesouth</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2011 15:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Chris,

After posting this, I thought about how historians have commented that Lincoln overestimated the numbers of white Southerners willing to rise up against the Confederacy given the chance. Fitzgerald&#039;s comment that the &quot;masses&quot; of Southern men were ready to do so may have been one of those letters that contributed to that overestimation.

I too was struck by Fitzgerald&#039;s passionate denunciation of slavery followed by his recommendation that slaveholders loyal to the United States be compensated by the U.S. for the loss of their slaves. I agree that his advice to Lincoln represents a realistic, pragmatic assessment of what it would take for the Union to hold the support of that class. 

It&#039;s interesting that Fitzgerald had a better grasp of the fragility of the South&#039;s Unionist coalition in regard to slaveholders. Seems he desperately wanted to believe that class resentments among the farmers and poor folk could be elevated to a revolution of sorts from below. He wouldn&#039;t be the first--or last--over the span of history to make that mistake.

Vikki]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Chris,</p>
<p>After posting this, I thought about how historians have commented that Lincoln overestimated the numbers of white Southerners willing to rise up against the Confederacy given the chance. Fitzgerald&#8217;s comment that the &#8220;masses&#8221; of Southern men were ready to do so may have been one of those letters that contributed to that overestimation.</p>
<p>I too was struck by Fitzgerald&#8217;s passionate denunciation of slavery followed by his recommendation that slaveholders loyal to the United States be compensated by the U.S. for the loss of their slaves. I agree that his advice to Lincoln represents a realistic, pragmatic assessment of what it would take for the Union to hold the support of that class. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s interesting that Fitzgerald had a better grasp of the fragility of the South&#8217;s Unionist coalition in regard to slaveholders. Seems he desperately wanted to believe that class resentments among the farmers and poor folk could be elevated to a revolution of sorts from below. He wouldn&#8217;t be the first&#8211;or last&#8211;over the span of history to make that mistake.</p>
<p>Vikki</p>
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		<title>By: graham</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2011 14:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, I would dispute Fitzgerald&#039;s contention about the composition of the army, etc. What I find interesting--aside from how articulated his class consciousness is--is his sympathetic observation about southern slaveholding unionists. Here is where southern anti-Confederates had a unique and far more pragmatic view of abolition in general--their slaveholders are not abstract, and have to be compromised with.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I would dispute Fitzgerald&#8217;s contention about the composition of the army, etc. What I find interesting&#8211;aside from how articulated his class consciousness is&#8211;is his sympathetic observation about southern slaveholding unionists. Here is where southern anti-Confederates had a unique and far more pragmatic view of abolition in general&#8211;their slaveholders are not abstract, and have to be compromised with.</p>
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		<title>By: renegadesouth</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[renegadesouth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2011 21:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for your comment, Bill. Yes, the &quot;Lost Cause&quot; perspective, which really came into its own around the turn of the twentieth century, has had a tremendous impact on what people think they &quot;know&quot; about the Civil War past of their ancestors. Furthermore, the enduring popularity of the Lost Cause premise that slavery did not cause the war, or that desertion and dissent were the province only of cowards, demonstrates the saying that &quot;the past is a foreign country.&quot; 

Vikki]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comment, Bill. Yes, the &#8220;Lost Cause&#8221; perspective, which really came into its own around the turn of the twentieth century, has had a tremendous impact on what people think they &#8220;know&#8221; about the Civil War past of their ancestors. Furthermore, the enduring popularity of the Lost Cause premise that slavery did not cause the war, or that desertion and dissent were the province only of cowards, demonstrates the saying that &#8220;the past is a foreign country.&#8221; </p>
<p>Vikki</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Newcomer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill Newcomer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2011 20:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The work that Southern historians are doing to bring to light the full scope of thier Southern heritage, Union as well as Confederate, is important to those such as myself whose heritage is Northern and Union.  The romantic &quot;lost cause&quot; perpective has had its influence in the North as well.  Some of that has  to do with how both sides dealt with the aftermath of the war.  It is in reading letters like this, that helps me put my ancesters&#039; Union service in a more balanced and realistic historical context.   Thank you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The work that Southern historians are doing to bring to light the full scope of thier Southern heritage, Union as well as Confederate, is important to those such as myself whose heritage is Northern and Union.  The romantic &#8220;lost cause&#8221; perpective has had its influence in the North as well.  Some of that has  to do with how both sides dealt with the aftermath of the war.  It is in reading letters like this, that helps me put my ancesters&#8217; Union service in a more balanced and realistic historical context.   Thank you.</p>
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